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New Fantasyland 1983

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Have you ever wondered where Skull Rock and the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship used to be in Disneyland? Did you know Dumbo once flew on the far west side of Fantasyland? And that the Carrousel wasn’t always where it is now? We look at the many changes made during the creation of 1983’s “New Fantasyland”.

We’ve created the above map to help easily compare early Disneyland Fantasyland with today’s version that came about in 1983. In pink you’ll notice just how crowded things were behind the castle. Below that you'll see a photograph of today's Fantasyland with a blue sketch overlay of the original locations of various attractions and buildings.

Photo credit: Jerry and Lorraine Kotler

Huge growth in the early 1980s

The Disney parks saw HUGE growth in the early 80s. Walt Disney World was getting EPCOT Center. Tokyo Disneyland was being built. “New Fantasyland” was Disneyland’s big project. Not long before this, the first two Big Thunder Mountains came about. My earliest memories come from this time. It was EXCITING. Everything made was extremely impressive.

Why all the changes to Fantasyland?

The land was never quite what Walt Disney wanted it to be. With limited time and money the original Fantasyland was built with the idea that it would later be updated with a more “fleshed-out” decor. Facades were created inexpensively. They were designed to look like medieval traveling tournament tents. the story behind the area explains that rides were “brought in” to the castle courtyard for the “temporary festivities”. 

The Storybook Look

It’s often assumed that no European “storybook” facades existed in Fantasyland until 1983 but there were a few. The shops immediately behind the castle, the Skyway station, Matterhorn’s queue, and the miniature buildings in Storybook Land all featured this charming architecture. It is predicted that the Storybook Land architecture would have been the inspiration for Walt’s revisions of Fantasyland had he revised the land.


An Operational Challenge

There was an operational challenge to be addressed. Outdoor rides were placed very closely to the walls of the indoor rides. Narrow walkways created constant pedestrian congestion. The solution? Rip up all the concrete and move rides around.


King Arthur Carrousel

The carrousel was located right between the entrances to Snow White and Peter Pan. It was moved back quite a distance in order to open the funnel of traffic coming from and going to the castle. The move also allowed for larger, more elaborate facades for Show White and Peter Pan. Prior to 1983 no landscaping existed around the carrousel nor was it propped up on a concrete platform.

Peter Pan’s Flight

A London-inspired exterior with a large clock tower was added. 24 new animatronic characters were installed.


Snow White’s Adventures (Renamed Snow White’s Scary Adventures in 1983)

Snow White herself didn’t appear in the pre-1983 ride (other than for short test periods in the 70s). Riders were to experience her adventures from her point of view. Most riders didn’t understand this and just wanted to see Snow White. She was included in the new, longer ride. Show scenes were updated and special effects were added. Outside in the new facade the Queen figure who opens closes curtains was introduced.


Pinocchio’s Daring Journey

What? Pinocchio wasn’t always there? Pinocchio’s Daring Journey was the headliner new dark ride of the expansion. Was it Disney’s first Pinocchio ride? Nope. Shortly before it’s Disneyland debut, Pinocchio opened in Tokyo Disneyland. What was there before Disneyland’s Pinocchio? The space was previously occupied by a theater.

Mickey Mouse Club Theater (Renamed Fantasyland Theatre in 1964)

The theater showed classic Disney cartoons back to back.

Photo credits: (Left) Jerrod Maruyama, (Right) Jerry and Lorraine Kotler 

Dumbo Flying Elephants (Renamed Dumbo the Flying Elephant)

Originally located near the Skyway entrance where the outdoor patio of the Village Haus Restaurant is today. Originally the elephants were to be pink. This was to help preserve the fact that there’s only one Dumbo. Much like there’s only one Mickey. But Walt at some point decided that everyone should get to ride the real Dumbo instead of a pink elephant from Dumbo’s drunken nightmare.

Photo sent by David Blakeslee

And get this. Early Dumbo ears were HINGED!! They were mechanized to flap up and down as the Dumbos flew. This didn't work so well so later vehicles didn't have hinges.


Both 1955 and 1983 versions hosted 10 elephants. A new spinner with 16 elephants was installed in 1990 after a few minor accidents occurred. This new build was intended for Euro Disneyland. A duplicate was created for Euro Disneyland in time for its 1992 opening. Fun fact: All Magic Kingdom-style parks today have a Dumbo spinner. All but Tokyo have 16 elephants. Tokyo still has 10.

For New Fantasyland Dumbo was moved to what used to be a small lagoon where a pirate ship stood for over 25 years.

Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship and Restaurant (Renamed Captain Hook’s Galley in 1969)

Tuna sandwiches, tuna burgers, tuna pies, and even tuna salad in a little boat were served aboard the wooden ship. This ship belonging to Captain Hook is arguably the most interesting setting of any quick service food counter anywhere. 

After ordering you could sit at one of a few tables on the ship or eat under umbrellas just north of the ship.

The simple lagoon was enhanced with the addition of plant life and Skull Rock in 1960. Guest would exit the dining area on a path that led under the Skull Rock rock work. The ship was renamed when Chicken of the Sea ended its sponsorship in 1969. 

Photo sent by David Blakeslee

The magnificent ship met its fate earlier than planned during the 1983 expansion. They say it was to be moved near today’s Storybook Land queue but upon removal the thing fell apart. Speculations have surfaced in recent years that they could have moved it successfully if they had really wanted to.

An urban legend I ignorantly grew up believing claims that Steven Spielberg purchased the ship to become One-Eyed Willie’s pirate ship in Spielberg’s 1985 film The Goonies. This is simply not possible.

Skull Rock

Added in 1960, Skull Rock featured a waterfall (or several little waterfalls) and its eyes glowed green at night. It was based on Skull Rock in Disney’s 1953 animated film Peter Pan. It was often photographed from above by guests riding in Skyway buckets.

Photo credit: Jerry and Lorraine Kotler

Today rock work and a waterfall stand where the rear portion of Skull Rock was. Do some of the original pieces remain? Probably. The plumbing perhaps?


Skyway to Tomorrowland

The Skyway changed its vehicle style from a round cylinder look to a more boxy look in 1965. The biggest change the Skyway saw in 1983 was a whole new set of views below.


Photo sent by Karlene Robinson

You can still see the old Skyway tower hidden up in the trees.


Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride

Toad’s track and interior were removed. The track was made longer. A few new scenes were added. Part of the new queue featured and outdoor garden. The exterior was built to look like Toad Hall from Disney’s 1949 animated film The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad.


Alice in Wonderland

The Alice dark ride was not a 1955 original. It opened in 1958. It was the only Fantasyland dark ride built after Disneyland opened and before New Fantasyland in 1983.

Mad Tea Party

The “tea cups” as they are most commonly referred to were originally located where King Arthur Carrousel is today. They were moved closer to Alice in Wonderland which of course makes sense, both being based on the same film. A tented snack bar stood near its new location where The Mad Hatter hat shop stands today. Tables and chairs covered the area now occupied by Mad Tea Party. Each version of the ride has hosted three groups of six spinning tea cups.


Photo sent by Eric Chu


Next time you are strolling through Fantasyland be sure to compare what was then with what is now! Your friends will be oh so impressed.

 

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Disneyland 1955 Model Close-ups
Disneyland in 1955
Not Having Fun at Disneyland
EYE CANDY: National Geographic Aug '63
EYE CANDY: National Geographic Aug '63 [Part 2]



EPCOT City Model [Part 1]

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We bring you a behind-the-scenes preview of a unique little side project. We show you how this 16” model of Walt’s EPCOT got started.

The fan community excitedly awaits the 30th Anniversary of EPCOT Center this October. Today we go back some 46 years just before Walt Disney’s death when he shared his dream for EPCOT the city. It was to be an extremely efficient city with futuristic modes of transportation. It was to be built in the center of the Walt Disney World property.

Join me in this “making-of” video as I begin creating a scale replica of the city layout Walt presented in 1966:

The model-making process.

Purchase extra fine floral foam and a 16” round piece of wood from the local craft store.

Cut the foam to nicely fit on top of the round wood.

Draw the EPCOT roads in Adobe Illustrator or any vector-based drawing program. Send vector files to someone with a small to medium flat bed laser cutter. Cut design in 1/8” acrylic.

Gently press the delicate acrylic cutout into the surface of the foam.

Remove the acrylic cutout and paint the surface of the foam. Sprinkle fine green static grass flock onto fresh paint.

After paint dries, pour off excess grass and blow out the grooves using a drinking straw.

Prime and paint acrylic cutout.

Use scrap foam as test blocks.

Glue cutout into place. Landscape the rest of the model before adding architecure. Here we see the unfinished city center with pieces loosely placed.

A couple of Peoplemover tracks extend to the residential rings of the city. Monorail tracks will soon be placed.

You might remember the little robot standing in the background. 

The process continues with lots of little trees and bushes, walkways, and ponds. After that, parks, schools, churches, city buildings, and little tiny mid-century ranch-stlye houses!

To be continued.....

 

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A Look at the Progress City Model- Then and Now
Buena Vista Street Model
Mars and Beyond Robot
Mechanizing a Miniature Main Street Electrical Parade
Swiss Family Treehouse Model
EPCOT Construction from the Air


Appearing Now on Wedway NOW!

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This week I was honored to be a guest on an episode of Wedway NOW! The Parrish brothers have recently launched a sister show and news companion to their regular podcast Wedway Radio.


We discussed the news of today, including:

Rumored new costumes for Epcot World Showcase cast members.

Upcoming changes to California Grill atop Walt Disney World's Contemporary Resort.

And the newly announced Disney Air Fresheners with interesting park-related scents.

 

Matt was unable to record this week but Nate and I discussed a few other things things that might interest you. Every week the special guest is presented with the "Final Four". These are four questions soliciting the opinions of the guest about various Disney topics. I was asked...


"Would you rather visit the 1964-65 New York World's Fair or Disneyland on July 17, 1955?"

"Which unbuilt Disney attraction, land, or park do you wish had been built?"

"If you could go back and experience an attraction you never got to see or do, what would it be? 

"The biggest problem with Disney is ________ ?"


Hear my answers and enjoy our discussion at WedwayRadio.com. And I highly recommend subscribing to Wedway Radio and Wedway NOW! on iTunes. It's free! Both are top-notch and full of entertaining knowledge and information.

While you are at it, visit another podcast I was honored to be a part of a while back: WDW Fan Boys #48, "Behind the Scenes with Mitch" Lilly joined the WDW Fan Boys as well in episode #53, "Declining by Degrees with Lilly".

 

So lots to listen to and lots to think about. A big thanks to Nate and Matt for inviting me on their show.

 

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WDW Fan Boys Podcast
Rhine River Cruise Mysteries
THEN AND NOW: Epcot World Showcase [Part 1]
THEN AND NOW: Walt at Disneyland

 

WDW Construction: Polynesian Village Resort

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Join us as we take a step-by-step look at the unusual construction of the Polynesian Village Resort at Walt Disney World.

The Polynesian was originally named the Polynesian Village Resort Hotel but was renamed Disney's Polynesian Resort sometime in 1985. Here we start with the foundations of the resort as well as the lake dock and some Monorail beams.

From further north we see the progress. At this point we are already in the year 1971. Let's hope we are ready for October. What's that rectangle of land in the foreground?? That's the site of the never-built Asian Resort!! This is a rare look at the land that eventually housed Disney's Grand Floridian.

The Great Ceremonial House begins to take shape.

Meanwhile at a facility on the east end of Walt Disney World property, U.S. Steel workers assembled hundreds of rooms.

Today the building still stands at 1500 Live Oak Lane, Orlando, FL 32830. If you've ever driven "the back way" to Magic Kingdom via Highway 535, you've seen the softball field.  The facility was just south of that.

Location provided by Twitter follower @SimonTravels

That's right, these modular guest rooms were assembled, finished, and furnished on an assembly line of sorts before being trucked over to the Poly construction site. A very similar process took place with the Contemporary Resort rooms.

A scale model shared by a couple of US Steel executives.

The rooms then get stacked into place. This was slightly different than the modular Contemporary Resort Hotel rooms which were "slid" into the various slots of the large a-frame structure.

Roof framing begins to take place.

The Monorail station also comes about.

The roofs are completed along with the rest of the guest buildings. Landscaping comes next.

 

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Poly
nesian Village Resort- 1985
Polynesian "Nanea Volcano Pool"- 1985
WDW Construction: Magic Kingdom
EPCOT Construction from the Air
EPCOT Center Construction Photos: Future World

 

Auctions of Rare Artifacts

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Get out your checkbooks and get ready to bid on these wonderful items. The Profiles in History Animation Auction and Dreier Collection Auction begin very soon!

20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA EXHIBIT ATTRACTION POSTER (Above)
$2,000 – $3,000 

Original Disneyland hand-silkscreened color poster for the Tomorrowland 20,000 Leagues Exhibit (not the submarine ride). Measures 36 in. x 54 in. Archivally framed and matted. Unexamined out of frame. 

 

 

ACTUAL MR. TOAD'S WILD RIDE VEHICLE FROM DISNEYLAND
$20,000 - $30,000 
 


"it's a small world" ANIMATRONIC HEADS
$800 - $3,000 each 

 

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN AND HAUNTED MANSION ANIMATRONIC HEAD SKINS
$2,000 - $3,000 each


11-FOOT 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA NAUTILUS AND SQUID
$60,000 - $80,000
 

 

BERT'S CHIMNEY SWEEP COAT FROM MARY POPPINS
$4,000 - $6,000 
 

MICKEY AND DONALD PEZ BOX WITH 8 PEZ DISPENSERS
$600 - $800 

 

SNOW WHITE AND DOPEY PEZ BOX WITH PEZ DISPENSERS
$600 - $800


ORIGINAL HARPER GOFF ARTWORK FOR WILLY WONKA & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
$20,000 - $30,000

Harper Goff was a legendary artist and art director not only for Walt Disney films, Disneyland, and Walt Disney World, he was also an art director on Willy Wonka. Surprised?

 

LITTLE HIAWATHA COLOR MODEL SHEET AND PRODUCTION CEL
$400 - $1,200 each 

 

ORIGINAL PRODUCTION CEL AND BACKGROUND FOR SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS
$30,000 - $50,000 


MARY BLAIR ORIGINAL CONCEPT ART FOR SONG OF THE SOUTH
$8,000 - $12,000

 

ORIGINAL PRODUCTION CELS FOR THE BRAVE LITTLE TAILOR AND THE POINTER
$2,000 - $6,000 each 

 

Other auction items include: Indiana Jones' hat, Kryptonite, an Everlasting Gobstoper, Ferris Bueller's leather jacket, some of Michael Jackson's clothing, an original Chewbacca head, and so much more.


In no way are we affiliated with these auctions. Nor are we selling or buying any of these great items. We are not that lucky! Let us know if any of you land something from either auction.

 

 

Related posts:

Pirate Animatronic Behind-the-Scenes
Little Box of Treasures
The Haunted Mansion Like You've Never Seen It
Animation Studies

 

Coming Soon: Tomorrowland '67

THEN AND NOW: Disneyland [Part 2]

Tomorrowland '67 [Part 1]

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In this multi-part series we bring you an attraction-by-attraction look at Disneyland's 1967 "New Tomorrowland" with lots of concept art, photos, maps, diagrams, and history.

Throughout this series we'll ask you to refer to our custom map above. Click on it for a larger version you can save. Everything in that teal color represents New Tomorrowland of 1967 and everything else is a map of Tomorrowland today.


Tomorrowland '67 [Part 2]

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In this part of our Tomorrowland '67 series we break down each attraction into different categories. We learn just how affordable Disneyland was for Southern Californians at the time and we see how long this great Disneyland expansion really lasted.

New Tomorrowland opened on July 2, 1967. Most of the previous Tomorrowland structures had been entirely demolished to make way for new or improved attractions. It cost more than $20 million. Remember, just twelve years earlier all of Disneyland cost about $17 million.

Let’s go see what’s new at Disneyland!

You’ve gone through Tomorowland withdrawals for long enough. It’s 1967 and it’s summertime. With Tomorrowland closed all this time you’ve only celebrated the past while visiting Disneyland’s three other lands (plus Main Street). You are ready to once again celebrate the future. You are eager for new rides.

Fill up your family car for $0.30 a gallon and head over to Disneyland. Take a tram over to one of the outer ticket booths and pull out $20. That’s plenty for everyone in your family of four. Better get the 15-ride ticket book just in case. Ticket books in the summer of 1967 cost between $3.50 and $5.50 depending on age and how many tickets you wanted. This included the price admission. If everyone happens to want to ride a couple additional big rides, E-tickets are only $0.75 at the various ticket booths inside the park. Individual D-tickets are only $0.60 each. C-tickets are $0.35, B-tickets $0.25, and A-tickets are only $0.10.

Southern Californians and Disneyland in the 1960s

All my grandparents and both my parents lived in California in the 60s (and beyond). Both sides of the family, though they didn’t know each other yet, had similar Disneyland-related traditions. I imagine most Southern Californians had similar experiences. My family would visit Disneyland every time someone came from out of town to visit. They would keep a shoe box of partially-used ticket books handy for themselves and their guests to use. When no one was visiting, they could pay between $0.75 and $3.00 per person for admission then use the tickets from the shoe box. Did my family, relatives, or their guests take lots of photos and film their many experiences?? Nope. It torments me every time I think of it.

Not my family.

A Review of the Timeline

Let's go over the custom timeline we've created above. 

On the far left in gray we see a number of attractions that closed in 1966. The Space Bar was a food location but we've included it to show what occupied the location before Carousel of Progress. To the right of those we see in teal everything that was new to New Tomorrowland. Some of these were not entirely new experiences but they were presented as "new" with good reason. Later in this post we explain why. Below those we see in dark green a number of pre-1967 things that stuck around during and after all 1967 changes. You can see that the House of the Future only overlaps New Tomorrowland for a few months. Were my family member at the park during this precious narrow sliver of time? Probably. Do they remember? No. I wasn't born yet and therefore was unable to be there myself. Thanks, Gorillas, for this photo that lets us pretend we were there for what appears to be the last days of the House of the Future.

Anyway, back to the timeline. The light brown color represents the many attractions that took place between New Tomorrowland and the current Tomorrowland. Some of these were fantastic. Like America Sings! I remember you. You'll notice changes in the mid-90s and especially in 1998 when Tomorrowland's next huge makeover took place. Then come the early 2000s.... Finally I draw your attention to the darker brown color and everything else on the far right. Today we have less gaps than a decade ago. Our beloved subs are traveling deep into the ocean's caves once again. (Yes, I know what you are thinking, but at least you can still climb down those cool metal stairs and watch bubbles rise past your porthole window as you prepare to ride through liquid space. It's better than a lagoon filled with dirt, I tells ya.) And as for the PeopleMover track, I mean the Rocket Rods track (with its center tubular steal thing that PeopleMovers didn't have), it's still standing. And Imagineering reports that it's constantly on their minds. Somehow state safety regulations are getting in the way.


What Happened in Tomorrowland in 1966/67 specifically?

2 entirely new attractions were added:

PeopleMover
Adventure Thru Inner Space

1 attraction was brought in from outside the park:
Carousel of Progress 

3 attractions were improved and renamed:
Rocket to the Moon became Flight to the Moon
Astro Jets became Rocket Jets
Circarama, U.S.A. became Circle-Vision 360° 

1 attraction was to be moved and improved but this never happened:
Flying Saucers were to be build under Space Mountain

1 major attraction was planned but was not built until years later:
Space Port (later named Space Mountain)

2 new stages were built:
Tomorrowland Stage
Tomorrowland Terrace Stage

6 previously-built attractions remained:
House of the Future
Tomorrowland Autopia
Skyway to Fantasyland
Matterhorn Bobsleds
Monorail
Submarine Voyage Thru Inner Space

It’s true, only two entirely new attractions were built for this new land. They were both steady, slow, offered great scenery, and people LOVED them. The PeopleMover and Adventure Thru Inner Space were very popular and still remain a couple of the most-missed Disney rides of all time. The PeopleMover was Disneyland’s fourth way to see a large portion of the park while riding a ride. The Railroad, Skyway, and Monorail also offered views of multiple parts of Disneyland.

Adventure Thru Inner Space was Tomorrowland’s first dark ride and boasted the world’s first Omnimover ride system. The Haunted Mansion with its black “Doom Buggies” normally claims the lion’s share of Omnimover discussions but Inner Space and its blue “Atom Mobiles” opened first. 

Carousel of Progress was new to Disneyland and new to everyone who didn’t make it to New York for the World’s Fair. Plus it was housed in a new building with an upper-level exhibit that the World’s Fair didn’t have. 

Three previously-existing attractions got major facelifts and new names. Rocket to the Moon’s two domed theaters and its curvy building were removed and a new building with a similar layout was built in its place. The ride was enhanced with an animatronic preshow and the ride itself offered new effects. The Astro Jets were removed and a similar spinner ride was built further to the south. This time the rocket ride was all the more fun because of the heights you could reach. It was built on top of the new PeopleMover station. Circarama, U.S.A. was renamed Circle-Vision 360° and got a larger building and better movie projection technology. This time the circular theater was made up of nine screens instead of twelve.

What’s this about an attraction that was supposed to be moved and improved but never happened? Well.... Plans were made for Flying Saucers to be built under what was going to be Space Mountain. The Flying Saucers ride was a part of Tomorrowland for years and was located where Magic Eye Theater (Captain E.O.) and Space Mountain are today. Blueprints show a smaller similarly shaped ride layout further south (refer to our map in Part 1). Hmm. It could be a gift shop for all I know. More on this in later posts.


One major attraction was planned but not built and there are two major reasons for this. Space Port/Space Mountain was a dream of Walt but high costs and a lack of technology required Space Mountain to be delayed.

As it turns out Space Mountain was built first in Walt Disney World's Tomorrowland in Magic Kingdom.

Two new stages were built to liven up the land’s atmosphere with live musical performances. And a very very special broadcast a couple years later.

Six attractions (five of which were rides) remained. Monsanto’s House of the Future (not a ride) had great view of the New Tomorrowland opening celebration but didn’t live to see the new year of 1968. The Skyway was given a new tower. The new tower was an extension of the Carousel of Progress building which happened to be built right next to the old tower . Tomorrowland Autopia, Matterhorn, and Submarine Voyage enjoyed beautiful new surroundings yet experienced few changes themselves as part of New Tomorrowland. 

 

What a great land it turned out to be. One of the most remarkable themed lands built up to that point. Perhaps the greatest. Disney and More provides this wonderful photo of Muhammad Ali strolling through the north side of New Tomorrowland.

Next time we begin diving into each New Tomorrowland attraction. In our next post we will look at a fan-favorite and it’s amazing journey. It’s quite possibly the only Disney attraction to be moved to a total of three different parks (one of those parks being a Fair). You know what I’m talking about...... Walt Disney’s own Carousel of Progress.

 

Related posts:

Tomorrowland '67 [Part 1]
National Geographic Aug '63 [Part 2]
Not Having Fun at Disneyland
New Fantasyland 1983

 

Tomorrowland '67 [Part 3]

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We continue our Tomorrowland '67 series and begin to focus on each individual Tomorrowland attraction. The first attraction on our list is none other than Walt Disney's esteemed Carousel of Progress. 

Carousel of Progress

In case you’ve never hunted for photos of Disneyland’s Carousel of Progress, let me tell you... they are few and far between. If you have ever hunted for photos of the upper level of the attraction you will know... they don’t exist. I’m sure they exist but not on the internet or any book I’ve ever seen. In additon to some photos that do exist, we bring you some custom never-before-seen maps, models, and diagrams.

Walt Disney’s and his “Carousel Theater of Progress”

Walt Disney had a large hand in the development of Carousel of Progress. He kindly shared a behind-the-scenes look at some of the development of the unique attraction in a broadcast called “Disneyland Goes to the World’s Fair”.

He referred to it then as the “Carousel Theater of Progress” perhaps to emphasize that the ride was not a traditional carousel but a theater that rotated like a carousel. Perhaps at this point in time its title was going to include the word “theater”.

Either way, we see an excited and charming Walt Disney share an idea that had been evolving for years. It was an idea that dated back to the concept of Edison Square.

Edison Square’s “Harnessing the Lightning” Attraction

The idea of a family presenting inventions that enrich our daily lives began with Edison Square. Edison Square was to be a residential street and extension of Disneyland’s Main Street, U.S.A. but sadly never came to be.

It was to be located off the east side of Main Street just north of another never-built extension called Liberty Street. Edison Square would have shown “the passing from the ‘old’ of the 19th century to the ‘new’ of the early 1900s”. The exterior architecture would have been a composite of various major American cities from New York to San Francisco. An attraction called “Harnessing the Lightning” would have celebrated Thomas Edison using large dioramas of a family using electricity.

Instead of sitting in a theater guests would have walked from scene to scene in sort of a museum-type setting. Starting on the south side of the cul-de-sac you would have walked counter-clockwise until exiting the attraction on the north side of the street.

You would have experienced an American family sharing life pre-electricity, post electricity, during contemporary time, and what was called "The Electronic Age". Edison Square was never built but as you can see many of the ideas were used in the development of Carousel of Progress.

Carousel of Progress at 1964-65 New York World’s Fair

The Carousel of Progress was originally presented at the 1964-65 New York World’s Fair at General Electric’s Progressland pavilion.

The pavilion was divided into four main parts. The Carousel of Progress was the main attraction. The “Skydome Spectacular”, the “Medallion City” exhibit, and the “Nuclear Fusion Demonstration” were three post-shows found on the upper level of the pavilion. 

Skydome Spectacular at the 1964-65 New York World's Fair

Carousel of Progress at Disneyland

Walt Disney had the components of the stage show shipped to Disneyland to be a part of New Tomorrowland. G.E. continued their sponsorship. A round two-story building was constructed in Tomorrowland where the old Space Bar food stand and eating area previously stood. 

An outer ring of seating, divided into six sections, and six stationary stages in the center of the first level were added. The second level housed the Progress City model.

At this point Disneyland goers had not been exposed to highly animated human Audio Animatronic figures for very long. Mr. Lincoln arrived less than a year earlier (Remember, Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln opened at Disneyland while the World’s Fair was still open for another three months– two Lincolns!). Pirates of the Caribbean with its many human figures had only been open for some three and a half months. 

Entrance, Acts 1-4

Guests entered a covered waiting area (see map above) on the west side of the building before loading into one of six revolving sections of seating. The seating area would then move clockwise to Acts 1 through 4.

Animatronic “Father” and “Mother” and their family members hosted the seated audience. They brought their visitors through time from the late 1800s up to the late 1960s/early 1970s, which was considered “the present and/or near future”. They shared the latest technological advancements of each period. Naturally they referenced products of the attraction’s sponsor, G.E. 

Act 4 showed the family living in Progress City. A painted backdrop of the radial city’s center towers was visible out the living room windows in the back portion of the stage. It was as if their “all-electric home” was positioned in one of the city’s outer residential areas.

The home was equipped with color TV “with a built-in video tape recorder”. Mother enjoys her “garden club, literary society, and the ladies bowling league”.  The temperature-controlled range allows Mother to “set the time and temper controls and relax.” (Perhaps not as entertaining as the voice-operated oven and the mishaps that ensue in Act 4 of today’s CoP at Walt Disney World).  The couple references a “jet airport” where the kids are headed to meet Grandma and Grandpa. “They have their own home now in a community for senior citizens.” 

Speed Ramp

The fifth rotation brought the audience to a moving speed ramp located directly in front the seating area, center stage. Guests were invited to “spring up out of your seats... through the doorway and up the moving ramp” where Act 5 awaited them. “On the second floor Mother and Father from our theater show will join you to tell you all about Progress City. So please keep moving. Don’t stand in the way of progress.”

The following two photos are from the World's Fair but they represent they Disneyland speedramp layout. Provided by The World's Fair Community

Upper Level, Progress City Model

This is where those custom models and maps come in handy. Thanks to a fan who wishes to remain anonymous we have three rare architectural drawings of the upper level. These have been invaluable in determining the guest flow and in the creation of these images.

At the top of the ramp the walkway curved and divided into three platforms leading guests southward in a clockwise direction.

These tiered viewing areas overlooked a large half-circle Progress City (also referred to as the City of E.P.C.O.T.) model. A fourth tier was for passing PeopleMover vehicles traveling north. 

The PeopleMover track entered the building on the south side right after crossing the rooftop of Flight to the Moon. It curved around the east rim of the building and exited out the north. Passengers could gaze down at Carousel audience members and the model city. 

The opposite side of the upper level was not accessible to guests. Was it used for storage? Did G.E. have a lounge up there? Is that where the maintenance guys took naps? What a large area to not be utilized.

 
Act 5

Father and Mother hosted this Act 5 though audio dialogue only. The couple spoke of the city’s various features and spotlights shined down onto the model accordingly. Parts of the model were mechanically animated. Miniature cars, monorails, and carnival rides moved. (The remaining pieces of the model on display today in Magic Kingdom are not animated).

Walt Disney had recorded his ideas for the city of E.P.C.O.T. in a broadcast only months before New Tomorrowland opened and less than two months prior to his death. Little other exposure to this idea was available to the public at the time. The model city was not a part of the World’s Fair exhibit. 

The Differences between E.P.C.O.T. and Progress City

Progress City as seen in Carousel of Progress represented an actual working city with full-time residents and could have existed anywhere in the United States. E.P.C.O.T. on the other hand was a prototype city intended for the Florida property (which later became Walt Disney World). It would have been the testing grounds and working template after which “Progress Cities” around the world would have been patterned. 

Exit

Guest were asked to exit out doors on the south end of the building near the spot the PeopleMover entered. From there they proceeded in a clockwise direction facing north then down a non-moving outdoor ramp facing south. This ramp is still there today and is used to exit (and occasionally enter) Innoventions.

Relocation to Walt Disney World

Walt Disney World and its Magic Kingdom opened in October of 1971. G.E. felt that their products had been well presented to audiences in California and perhaps audiences in Florida would better enjoy their sponsored show. On September 9, 1973 Disneyland closed the doors to Carousel of Progress. Magic Kingdom built a brand new theater to house the show. This time there were no speed ramp, second level, or Act 5. The theater also rotated counter-clockwise for some reason. Maybe it made better sense to travel in time from left to right?

Somehow (consider it a miracle!) it still operates today and continues to be a nerd-favorite. The Progress City model was hacked into manageable pieces and also relocated to Magic Kingdom. Guests can see see a smaller portion of the model city while riding Magic Kingdom’s PeopleMover.

In a previous post specifically about the Progress City Model we shared just how much of the model was put on display at Magic Kingdom.

Other Rotating Theater Attractions

The Carousel of Progress was presented in two different theme parks and one fair yet it was never duplicated. Two other attractions, however, did use the rotating theater format. America Sings replaced Carousel of Progress at Disneyland.

Meet the World at Tokyo Disneyland used the same format as well. Plans for a Meet the World attraction in the Japan pavilion at Walt Disney World’s EPCOT Center fell through before the park opened. (Side note: We are currently trying to solve the mysteries around EPCOT Center’s Meet the World and need more info. Was a rotating platform ever built in the large show building behind the Japan pavilion? I have my doubts.)

A Sequel

EPCOT Center’s Horizons (1983-1999) is considered to be the continuation of Carousel of Progress' 20th Century story. In Horizons the family shares their 21st Century lifestyle. Horizons is considered by many to be the greatest theme park attraction ever built or at least the greatest attraction ever torn down.

Carousel of Progress Today

Although you cannot enjoy its sequel, you can still enjoy Carousel of Progress at Magic Kingdom’s Tomorrowland. Acts 1-3 are very similarly to those presented at the World’s Fair and at Disneyland.

Act 4 has been changed a small handful of times. When watching Act 4 today, remember that this version of “tomorrow” is from 1994 and boasts some great mid-90s technology. And sweaters. And Reeboks.

Progress City Model Today

It's wonderful to look at while passing by on a PeopleMover. The model suffers from lack of proper maintenance but nevertheless, it's still there. But please, no flash photography! It looks better under normal show lighting.

A comparison of Magic Kingdom's Carousel of Progress building from 70s and today.

Disneyland's Carousel Theater is still stands and is home to Innoventions. It's not a theater anymore but both lower and upper levels (with a very different configuration) are open to guests.

Working On-set

As a young boy in Magic Kingdom I dreamt of walking around those great Carousel of Progress stages. Some of my fondest moments of my creative career came when I was asked to do a few small projects at the attraction. I was honored to work on some of the animatronic figures, both human and animal, and some of the set work. I painted, repaired, got rid of one of the old “Hidden Mickeys” (my own decision), and adjusted a few things. I remember painting the finger nails on “Father”, fixing a couple of his necks, and painting parts of his four faces.

I even painted the laptop “Mother” is working on.  She had been hitting it with her hand requiring some serious touchup work. I gave a couple of the “Rovers” some help. Of course I spent lots of time wondering around observing every detail, from the hand-painted backdrops to the various "G.E" markings to the animatronic birds on the tree branch. Of course I explored the backsides of each set.

Uncle Orville!

What a delight it was to work with some of the same set pieces presented by Walt Disney to the world all those years ago.

 

Related posts:

Tomorrowland '67 [Part 1]
Tomorrowland
 '67 [Part 2]

Carousel
 of Progress Like You’ve Never Seen It
THEN AND NOW: Walt at Disneyland
EPCOT City Model [Part 1] 

 

EPCOT 30TH: A Photo Tour of the Past [Part 1]

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As we approach EPCOT's 30th Anniversary we take a moment to look back on the early days of EPCOT Center through lots of old photos. We share photos taken by guests and photos taken by cast members working at EPCOT Center in the early years. These have never been posted online until now!

Team PICO (Project Installation and Coordination Office)

Projection guys. Remember, early EPCOT Center had many many projectors. 

Communicore costumes.

WDW Fan Boy Brett is seen here sporting some nice 80s fashion. Tall socks and short shorts!

Ahh the old fountain.

Fountain with the beautiful spires and beautiful blue subway tile.

More socks.

Communicore's elaborate Age of Information.

Communicore's Fountain of Information.

Communicore's Energy Exchange located near Universe of Energy.

Universe of Energy.

A band with a backdrop. Horizons when Horizons still existed.

We've made our way to only a small portion of EPCOT Center. In the next post we make our way around the park a little more to see what fun edutainment and excellent design we come across. 

 

Related posts:

EPCOT Construction from the Air
EPCOT Center Construction Photos: Future World
Disneyland Meets EPCOT Center
THEN AND NOW: Epcot Future World [Part 1]
EPCOT Center Graphics

 

Walt Disney World in 1971 [Part 1]

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October 1 marks not only the anniversary of the opening of EPCOT Center (1982) but the openings of Magic Kingdom and Walt Disney World (1971) as well. We present some wonderful color photos of Magic Kingdom taken by a construction worker in 1971. These photos come courtesy of Nomeus of www.flurbex.com who is the grandson of man behind the camera. These photos are exclusive to ImagineeringDisney.com.

North end of Main Street.

An almost dry moat. Look at the freshly-installed sea serpent topiary.

Tomorrowland spires with a man on top! That's Nomeus' grandfather.

Tomorrowland opened in 1971 without the PeopleMover, Rockettower Plaza, Space Mountain, or Carousel of Progress which would all be visible from this angle today.

Grandfather walking on an unfinished Tomorrowland roof.

A view of the parking lot east of Main Street. Town Square and main entrance on the far right.

Backside of Main Street East.

Grand Prix Raceway. Anyone know what that is on the overpass?

The caves of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. You'll notice the Skyway line and pillar. The grass hill on the left wasn't there for long. It became the second home to the Fantasyland Art Festival in 1973. Later it became the Enchanted Grove stand. Today it's called Cheshire Café.

More 20K! No water yet.

More colorful 20K. In the background you can see the top of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

Can you imagine walking around every morning watching the place come to life?? 

 Everyone who wasn’t on the construction crew was invited to visit the Walt Disney World Preview Center. Today you can still drive by the building which is currently home to the Amateur Athletic Union. It’s located at 1910 Hotel Plaza Boulevard near Downtown Disney.

A big thanks to Nomeus and his family for the photos. Stay tuned for Part 2 where we share more of these gorgeous photos.

 

Related posts:

WDW Before Opening Day 1971
WDW Construction: Magic Kingdom
THEN AND NOW: MK Tomorrowland [Part 1]
Bin Laden Mansion Minutes From Walt Disney World
20K- 1979
20K Lagoon- 1982

 

 

EPCOT 30TH: A Photo Tour of the Past [Part 2]

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Let's explore Future World. There's so much to do. The following are never-before-posted vintage photos sent to us by our readers. Thanks readers! Enjoy Part 1 here.

Super stylish G.E. Horizons cast member costumes.

A nice view of both Horizons and Universe of Energy. 

Step back in time a bit to see Horizons being built. Construction walls are definitely not a new thing.

Let's go back to the future, post 1983, and behold the beauty of the very grand Horizons entrance.

The old strollers.

Is that guy watering the plants? Is that his horticulture cart? Or was someone else selling something from that cart?

World of Motion. We've received countless World of Motion photos. People must have liked the place. Hmm.

A thing of beauty. Is that person standing while the vehicle was in motion??

A great view that has definitely changed over the years.

A classic zany show scene inside the ride.

World of Motion post show. A great fit for Future World. With displays that actually drew crowds.

Prototype models and renderings of futuristic ride systems.

On over to the west side. Imagination!

Over at the land we get a look at Kitchen Kabaret.

And its Kraft curtain!

Next door we see the future site of The Living Seas. Notice the rendering on the construction wall 

And some fun-loving EPCOT Center cast members. 

It's weird to think of the 80s as "vintage" but when looking at these photos, we see that the 80s happened quite some time ago. Enjoy.

 

Related posts:

EPCOT 30TH: A Photo Tour of the Past [Part 1]
EPCOT Center Graphics
Daredevil Circus Spectacular at EPCOT Center
EPCOT Construction from the Air
THEN AND NOW: Epcot Future World [Part 1]

 

Walt Disney World in 1971 [Part 2]

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Walt Disney World and Magic Kingdom opened almost exactly 41 years ago. Let's look at some more of the park as finishing touches are added. Then let's enjoy the new park with some photos taken right after opening. Another big thanks to Nomeus of www.flurbex.com and his grandfather who took these photos while working on the construction of Walt Disney World. These photos are exclusive to ImagineeringDisney.com.

Early early Jungle Cruise photos are so rare! Look how clean and beautiful it was.

Haunted Mansion.

Walt Disney World Railroad.

Cinderella Castle.

Empty moat. Wait, was this taken before the sea serpent topiary was installed as seen in Part 1? I think so.

Central Hub.

A look at Walt Disney World just after opening. Mickey leads the way.


Snow White and five, maybe six Dwarfs. Dopey might be hiding in there somewhere. The great original Market House in the background. 

A 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea queue full of people. But there's a construction crane in the background. Could this have been a pre-opening test group? Maybe the crane was still used after opening.

Huge thanks to Nomeus and his family for these amazing and rare photos. Oh to have a time machine!

 

Related posts:

Walt Disney World in 1971 [Part 1]
WDW Before Opening Day 1971
MK Jungle Cruise
Sounds of the Jungle Cruise
The Haunted Mansion Like You've Never Seen It
THEN AND NOW: Liberty Square [Part 1]

 

EPCOT 30TH: A Photo Tour of the Past [Part 3]

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Happy 30th Anniversary, EPCOT Center! Right now fans at the park are celebrating the occasion with lots of anniversary-related activities. 30 years ago this month guest participated in a number of ceremonies and dedications. Even Walt Disney's widow, Lillian Disney, attended some of the festivities. We present some extremely rare (possibly never-before-shared) event photos and more never-before-posted guest photos from our Photo Hunt.

Opening Day Ceremonies, October 1, 1982

Card Walker conducted the ceremony. EPCOT Center's "First Family" was recognized. The Winter Park, FL residents got up that morning at 4 a.m. and dodged park security until the parking lot was finally open at 7 a.m. As soon as they drove in Dick and Paula Cason told their kids to run to the gate so they'd be the first family to enter. Card Walker presented lifetime Walt Disney World passes to the family.

Watch it here.

 

Later that month on October 24 Card Walker welcomed Lillian Disney to a stage on the other side of Spaceship Earth in front of the fountain.

Did any of you out there happen to be in either of these crowds??

The day before a ceremony took place that officially dedicated World Showcase. The large "People of the World" dolls paraded around. Disney characters weren't a part of EPCOT Center until later on. These costumed people met with guests in World Showcase instead.

The "People of the World" or "EPCOT Pageant Dolls" were eventually retired. Here we see a rare group shot on their very last day of appearance.

Michael Eisner and others made way for more recognizable characters to appear.

Remember to old World Showcase omnibus?? It was later painted blue. Then this happened.

And finally, a real treat for you seekers of the super rare, super obscure, and perhaps super mundane. There are only five or so photos of this known to exist online. "The Lost Potties of Denmark"! I borrow this term from our friend Michael Crawford of Progress City, U.S.A. who has extensively researched to topic. The full Denmark Pavilion never happened but restrooms with Danish architecture were built. Here we see them behind the construction wall as the Norway Pavilion is being built. You can see construction of the Stave Church.


 

Related posts:

EPCOT 30TH: A Photo Tour of the Past [Part 1]
EPCOT 30TH: A Photo Tour of the Past [Part 2]
Rhine River Cruise Mysteries
EPCOT Construction from the Air
THEN AND NOW: Epcot World Showcase [Part 1]
THEN AND NOW: Epcot World Showcase [Part 2]
World Showcase Lagoon- 1983 

 

 


Disney + 90s Star Power!!

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In case you forgot about the synergetic power of Disney teaming up with 1990s actors, singers, or athletes to appear on medium-sized magazine covers, we bring you these. Oh Bob Saget and Baby Herman... the messes you get yourselves into.

Sebastian terrified of Steve Urkel. Inside we can learn about "Other Cool Nerds."

Hulk Hogan with a dinosaur in a headlock. Oddly this was before Jurassic Park came out.

Macaulay Culkin afraid of his new school teacher, Ursula.

Two years later Macaulay rides a motorcyle with bus driver Mickey.

Neil Patrick Harris (big Disney fan) "gets spooked".

Luke Perry's school schedule includes "skateboarding" and "star fashion". Roger Rabbit carries his many books.

Paula Abdul + circuses?

Will Smith.

The Fresh Prince and the Evil Queen. Get it?

Melissa Joan Hart riding a flying carpet with a creepy Aladdin. And Timone. And Meeko? And King Louie?? What the?

Joey Lawrence wearing Aladdin-like clothing.

MC Hammer and Darkwing Duck.

Joe Montana rock climbing with Goofy. Of course.

Blossom and the Beast.

Arnold Schwarzenegger wearing a really nice belt.

Fred Savage with Santa Clause and the Rescue Rangers.

Rick Moranis. Always shrinking things or blowing things up in the 90s. In the 80s he was hillariously and unknowingly saving the world from poisonous beer.

Source for many of these fabulous images: Disney Adventures Magazine Tumblr 

 

Related posts:

Animation Studies
Walt Disney Studios Post Production Behind-the-Scenes
Trip Report- Disneyland/Disney Cruise 10-2011 [Part 2]

My 10-Point Plan for Better Character Attraction Placement

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I have a plan. I have organized my plan into ten points. Ten rules. Ten basic guidelines. If implemented, I believe the Disney parks will offer better experiences and better environments. The plan focuses on better placement of character-based attractions yet all types of attractions and their surrounding lands will benefit from this plan. All types of guests will also benefit. 

Let's intelligently approach what might be considered a silly topic. It's a topic I believe to be crucial in maintaining the high standards and integrity of the Disney theme parks. It's a topic that is endlessly debated. I believe there are excellent solutions that require very little compromise from either side of the debate.

The Debate of Character Placement

One of the biggest arguments amongst serious fans is the argument of character placement. I’m not referring to walk-around meet-and-greet costumed characters making temporary autograph-signing appearances (although I will address that later on). I’m talking about permanent character-based attractions.

One side of the argument says, “Characters are fun no matter where you put them” and “People come to the parks because they want to see Disney characters” and “It’s all just for fun anyway”.

The other side says, “Characters are great, but like everything, they should be put in the appropriate locations” and “Character additions to non-character locations change the way those locations feel” and “A certain level of integrity and cohesion need to be maintained”. 

When discussing this issue a while back I was told, “Thank you but I like my attractions Disney-themed”. My immediate thought was, “Aren’t they all sort of ‘Disney-themed’?” Then I said, “So you don’t like almost anything outside of Fantasyland?” This person for whatever reason associated all of Disneyland with the Disney characters and failed to recognize the many non-character offerings with which, ironically, she was also obsessed.

A gift shop coworker of mine once explained that no rhyme or reason need be applied to anything in the Magic Kingdom because “it’s Mickey’s park and he can make anything happen with Pixie Dust.” I’m sorry but that’s a poor way to manage a classy theme park. And that’s not how Pixie Dust works.

A Brief History of Characters in the Parks

Starting in 1955, characters from animated feature films were not permanently placed in any land outside of Fantasyland. Original characters like Tiki Birds and Country Bears were introduced outside of Fantasyland but these were created for these types of environments specifically. Live-action franchises like Davy Crockett, Swiss Family Robinson, and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea were permitted outside of Fantasyland. Characters from corporate sponsors like the Frito Kid, Aunt Jemima, and the Kaiser Aluminum Pig were also permitted. Pecos Bill, from the 1948 short film, was a part of the Golden Horseshoe and Wally Boag’s brilliant show. Gift shops sold character-based items. Character parades regularly wove through the park. But at the end of the day, Fantasyland was the only home for permanent characters. And it worked.

It wasn’t until 33 years after Disneyland opened that the temporary Mickey’s Birthday Land opened at Magic Kingdom in 1988. In 1989 the very permanent Splash Mountain opened in Disneyland’s Critter Country and in Magic Kingdom’s Frontierland in 1992. In 1993 Mickey’s Toon Town opened at Disneyland. And so began the placement of permanent character attractions outside of Fantasyland.

By the end of the decade both Aladdin and Tarzan films inspired permanent changes to significant parts of Disneyland’s Adventureland. Toy Story’s Buzz Lightyear had his own ride in Magic Kingdom’s Tomorrowland. In the new millennium in all sorts of similar changes occurred. Monsters Inc. monsters and Finding Nemo fish moved into lands celebrating the future. A colorful Aladdin spinner ride was plopped in the middle of the jungle. A smart-talking bird from Aladdin teamed up with a bird fromThe Lion King and together they “managed” to repeatedly verbally abuse the former classic attraction they occupied. (They have since been evicted). And the list goes on.

Interestingly only about 50% of these “reimagined” locations remained popular for any real amount of time.

I worked at Disneyland in the late 90s. Disneyland President Paul Pressler (and many others) at the time talked about how everything should be tied to the Disney films. Everything? I would consider any classic attractions to be just as iconic as any film threatening to tie itself to it. Wouldn’t you say? 

Today, CEO Bob Iger speaks of major film franchises being the best way to expand the Disney theme parks. This idea is the foundation on which the Avatarland plans stand. This is no doubt largely inspired by the huge success of The Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Universal's Island of Adventure. Harry Potter fits nicely into the pretty open theme of “Adventure”. Does Avatar fit the more specific Animal Kingdom theme of “Animals”? Hold on... Now I’m speaking of a third-party live-action film. This will also be included in the plan.

A Terrible Approach

It is often asked, “Hmm, which land would be best for this film?” Then the land with the least-clashing theme wins. “Monsters don’t really fit in the Old West or in exotic jungles or in Colonial America or in a medieval castle courtyard... Ok, Tomorrowland it is.”

Maybe we should be asking, “What would benefit this land most?” “What sort of attraction, dining, or merchandise would best enhance the experiences this land should offer?” “Would this greatly disrupt the aesthetics and overall design of its surroundings?” “Will this compromise the long-term integrity of this land?”

You may be asking, “but what about the latest successful animated film? It doesn’t fit perfectly but it deserves a place in the parks.” My plan addresses this as well.

Some Things We Can All Agree On:

•  There is potential for big money and lots of fun when it comes to movie tie-ins.

•  Move tie-ins are not immune to failure. 

•  Character rides are an important part of the parks and always have been. 

•  Something does not have to be linked to a movie or a known character to be hugely successful.

Most of Disney’s keystone attractions need no tie-in to be successful: Space Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain, Matterhorn, Haunted Mansion, Jungle Cruise, Tiki Room, Pirates of the Caribbean, “it’s a small world”, Soarin’, Kilimanjaro Safari, Expedition: Everest, and so on.

The Solution

The solution comes down to one thing: ORGANIZATION

How do we best organize everything so that everything fits nicely, integrity is preserved, and everyone still gets to have loads of fun?

A Few Questions to Ponder: 

•  Should every land and every park strive to fill the needs of every type of fan? Is that even possible?

•  Can there be rules that say that something is never permitted in one place but is absolutely permitted in another? 

•  Can certain lands or even entire parks have significantly more relaxed rules than other lands or parks?

Think about these for a minute.

My Thoughts on Animation and Animated Characters

Before I go any further, allow me be clear on one thing. I absolutely love animated feature films, animated short films, and television animation. I studied animation in school. I treasure the memories of my visits to Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks, and to other animation studios. I regularly watch animation of all kinds. I worked as a Disney Character Artist for a time and absolutely loved it. My wife was a Face Character Performer at Walt Disney World and at Hong Kong Disneyland. I love Disney animation. It is my love for these things that strongly enhances my desire for better organization within the theme parks.

What About Meet-and-greets, the Non-permanent Characters?

It would be irresponsible to not address this topic as well. 

Costumed characters have always appeared in the parks (EPCOT Center being a slight exception for a time) and I think they always should appear in the parks. Their appearances should be fitting though. Timon doesn’t need to be in turn-of-century American Main Street, U.S.A. I don’t think Tinkerbell needs to hang out in Future World. 

The semi-permanent meet-and-greet backdrops, like everything else, should not visually disrupt their surroundings. Their designs and craftsmanship, like everything else, should be on par with the world class environments that surround them. Meet-and-greet sets should blend in so well that when no character is present, the set doesn’t look like a set. If no designated set is available, characters can stand in front of appropriate existing structures or landscaping. Very simple yet very effective.

Addressing “Needs”

At some point while reading this blog post you may have thought of certain guest needs. Perhaps you thought of the need for plenty of character-based attractions for kids. Maybe you thought of the need to not take the parks so seriously. 

The topic of “needs” can quickly ruffle feathers on both sides of any theme park argument. On one side someone will use a need as justification for something that the other side considers to be sub-par. It seems that the ultimate excuse for poor design is that “it fills a need”. The clash between the design-focussed fans and the operations-focussed fans seems to be never-ending.

Might I suggest That Good Design and Efficient Operations Can Nicely Co-exist?

Example 1: Space Mountain. After Matterhorn’s huge success as Disneyland’s first thrill attraction, there was a need for another thrill ride. Space Mountain was built at both Walt Disney World and Disneyland. Its design, layout, locations, and theme were beautifully and seamlessly brought together to not only fill an operational need but to also fill the design needs of both Tomorrowlands. 

Example 2: Disneyland’s Casey Jr. Circus Train. It meets the needs of small children yet looks great, is well-designed, well-built, fits beautifully, and can be enjoyed by all ages. The all-too-common (and unacceptable) excuse of “it looks terrible but that’s ok because the kids like it” isn’t needed here.

A young and ambitious self-proclaimed “future Disney executive” once told me, “Disney HAD to build the Value Resorts”. Their tacky designs were of no concern to this young man because the Value Resorts fill a need. They do fill a need. But could they have filled a need and showcased better design?

In Other Words...

Everything should be well-designed. Everything should be put in the right place. After all, good and appealing design just might be the most important factor in Disney’s 85+ year success. Too expensive to design and build somthing well? Then don't built it. Build it when it can be done well.

 

And Finally...

 

MY 10-POINT PLAN:

1- EXPAND FANTASYLANDS. Expand Disneyland’s Fantasyland to the northwest as needed. This will accommodate new attractions based on animated feature films and animated short films (The short films need some love too!). Continue current expansion of Magic Kingdom’s Fantasyland, as planned, with the future option of expanding to the northeast if needed.

2- EXPAND CRITTER COUNTRY AT DISNEYLAND. There is little room for expansion but one more family-friendly offering here would lighten the load over in Fantasyland a bit. My suggestion: An attraction I designed called Country Critter Jamboree. Imagine Country Bear Jamboree but with all sorts of critters putting on a show (maybe in a carousel theater??).

3- CREATE A CRITTER COUNTRY AT MAGIC KINGDOM. Include Splash Mountain and the real estate to the west and northwest. This fun-for-all-ages expansion would allow youngins who can’t yet see the critters inside Splash Mountain to see some critters elsewhere. My suggestion: Two attractions I designed called Critter Canyon Railroad and Critter River Expedition. One is a Casey Jr. Circus Train-style train that repeatedly intersects with a slow Storybook Land-style boat ride. Both are set in a land full of critters and critter habitats. Picture little houses, caves, other critter dwellings. The train would look like it was built by animals with natural forest materials in addition to some old abandoned railroad parts they’ve come across. The boats would look like wide canoes carved by beavers. The boat ride would pay subtle homage to the never-built Western River Expedition that was once intended for that side of the park.

4- “ANYTHING GOES” AT HOLLYWOOD STUDIOS AND CALIFORNIA ADVENTURE. Relax the rules of both parks. These parks have many similarities. Both can accommodate a wide variety of themes. California Adventure has a pretty open theme of “California” and Hollywood Studios has a pretty open theme of  “Hollywood”. Both seem to welcome the current trend of PIXAR PIXAR PIXAR! and the Pixar films seem fit better in these parks than in any of the other parks. I’ve been known to call DHS and DCA “perfect dumping grounds” for anything new-fangled or trendy. “Dumping grounds” is not the right term for two parks that have potential to be pretty great places, but you get my point. So DHS and DCA, go nuts! Let the movie-based offerings fill your borders. Let’s just make sure everything is designed and crafted well. And organized pretty well. Avatarland at DHS? Sure! 

5- HIGHER STANDARDS AT DISNEYLAND AND MAGIC KINGDOM. Designate Fantasylands, Critter Countries (Rules 3 and 4), and Mickey’s Toontown (Disneyland) as the ONLY places in these two parks to house any permanent character-based offerings. This would require the removal of character rides in the Tomorrowlands, Adventurelands, Frontierlands, etc. Remember, this does not include characters like Country Bears, Tiki Birds, Haunted Mansion ghosts, etc. who were designed specifically for these types of environments.  

6- MAKE EPCOT SOPHISTICATED AGAIN. Return the Figment and Dreamfinder duo to Journey Into Imagination and improve the attraction to its original level of entertainment and quality. Figment needs to not only host a great ride again, he needs to represent Future World in a more important way. Remember his role back in the day? As for a “fixed” Journey Into Imagination, I’ve heard some promising rumors very recently from some very legitimate sources. Sorry, I don’t have more to give you than that.

7- NEW LAND AT ANIMAL KINGDOM. Build an animal-focussed Fantasyland-type “kiddie” land. Quality dark rides, spinners, and other family-friendly attractions can be based on the many untapped animal-focussed animated films in Disney’s library. Jungle Book, Tarzan, Robin Hood, Lion King, even The Sword in the Stone, etc. could all exist in a similar way that Peter Pan, Snow White, and Pinocchio exist in Fantasyland. This land would be nicely tucked away and not visible from other lands. Additionally, build only animal/nature-related attractions in the rest of the park.

8- PIXAR-BASED ATTRACTIONS PLACED ONLY IN DHS AND DCA. So far Pixar has a stellar 12-film lineup that should not be ignored. As stated in #4, Pixar films fit quite nicely inside DHS and DCA. For some reason they don’t fit as nicely in say, Tomorrowland or in Epcot. Now, there is definitely some wiggle room in this rule. I write this rule without knowledge of future Pixar films. The day may come when Pixar makes a film a about critters, for example, that would fit nicely into a Critter Country. Perhaps a Finding Nemo attraction would fit in the Fantasyland-style land I proposed for Animal Kingdom in #7. (Maybe the attraction pieces can be moved over from Epcot! Win-win).

9- FUTURE ATTRACTIONS BASED ON THIRD PARTY FILMS TO BE BUILT ONLY AT DHS AND DCA. We shouldn't be foolish enough to think that more third-party films won't make their way into the parks. We've seen much success with attractions based on Star Wars, Indiana Jones, The Muppets, etc. Inevitably some of the Marvel lineup will be introduced to the parks. This rule and rule #4 go hand-in-hand. Want an Iron Man ride? Sure. That can be exciting. Let's put it in the park that celebrates all-things-movies. Or in the park that embraces pretty much anything. The Tomorrowlands and Future World don't need to be hodgepodge lands when we have two hodgepodge parks. Just design and build these things well or don't build them at all.

10- E-TICKET TREATMENT TO A, B, C, AND D-TICKET ATTRACTIONS. Lastly, a rule about overall quality. Attractions large and small are important. The enormous scale of Splash Mountain does not need not be applied to a small ride like Dumbo but the level of quality should be the same. The title of this rule is inspired by FoxxFur's Passport to Dreams article entitled "Lighting in a Bottle? Storybook Circus". FoxxFur discusses the charm of "C-ticket rides with E-ticket trimmings". I also refer you to Adam Roth's photo report of the recent New Fantasyland soft opening. This level of craftsmanship has been seen very few times in the past deacade and a half.

There You Have It.

A plan that can be fully-implemented by say... Walt Disney World's 50th Anniversary in 2021? I believe this offers solutions for all types of fans and requires very little compromise from either side of the debate. Want more characters? You get them. Want no more mindless cartoony overlays on top of classic, sophisticated themed environments? You've got it. Want only movie-specific offerings? Great. And less walking is required.

Why Ludwig in the header image? He's both intelligent and fun. 

 

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THEN AND NOW: MK Tomorrowland [Part 1]
THEN AND NOW: MK Adventureland [Part 1]

 

 

That's What Walt Said

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I put together a few of these images recently to post to Twitter and decided to do a whole collection.

I think some of my relatives and neighbors think my wife and I talk like this at home. We did meet each other at Walt Disney World but we also have brains. And so did Walt Disney. Walt didn’t go around speaking in fluffy buzz words. He was a respectable, realistic, intelligent, and rather blunt man. To “future Imagineers” I often suggest keeping the fluffy stuff to a minimum. Keep your resumes and behaviors professional, perhaps a little fun, but always mature enough that the company wouldn’t be embarrassed to hire you.

If you seek a career at Walt Disney Imagineering, read the words of legendary Bob Gurr. And good luck!

 

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Walt Disney and Steve Jobs

 

Inside Walt Disney World Maintenance Shops

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Let's take a behind-the-scenes look at the kind of work that goes on in backstage maintenance shops at Walt Disney World. Friend of the blog, Nomeus, share these wonderful photos from 2005 from one of his family members.

 

There are many buildings, trailers, and underground areas at Walt Disney World dedicated to the creation and maintenance of props, figures, signs, ride vehicles, and other pieces for the parks. If you ever have a chance to tour any of them with permission, I highly suggest you do. Some of my most fond memories are from working in some of these places and visiting others. You never know what you'll run into. Half-dressed animatronics, Captain Hook with missing limbs, an old "Rover" dog from Carousel of Progress who's been renamed "Steve". A big thanks to Nomeus and one of his family members for providing these amazing glimpses into various creative processes.

Fox News recently interviewed Nomeus, Leonard Kinsey, and Adam The Woo about their explorations around Walt Disney World through areas that are normally off-limits to the public. Kinsey states, "To me it’s like you live in a house for 30 years and you’ve never gone in the basement. That’s just weird." 

We do not suggest anyone go anywhere at Disney without the proper permission. There are tours and other ways to see some of these things. In the mean time, watch this:

Nomeus is a prominent Urban Explorer, mostly around Florida. You may remember some of his fantastic photos we posted of the abandonded Bin Laden mansion just minutes north of Magic Kingdom. Photos from his other explorations are found on his website, Nomeus Photography - Abandoned Florida and Beyond.

 

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Pirate Animatronic Behind-the-Scenes
Little Box of Treasures

 

The Wonders of Nature's Wonderland [ PART 3 ]

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More incredible additions to Sam Towler's stunning scale model of Disneyland's extinct Mine Train Thru Nature's Wonderland.

Bear Country before water is added.

New, fake water.

A little beaver for Beaver Valley.

The icing on the cake. A Mike Fink Keel Boat (in-the-making)

Fog! Produced by a fog machine for the purposes of taking this photo. Oh how fun it must have been to ride Mine Train in the fog.

Tastefully-placed LED lighting makes for a gorgeous night shot. 

A great new technique for making waterfalls:

Two years ago we posted a wonderful collection of Sam's behind-the-scenes photos of the model-making process. Sam recently mentioned on his blog that this labor of love has hit the seven year mark. As we've said before, this model with its moving parts is "one of the coolest examples of 'Backyard Imagineering' we've ever seen."

For even more fabrication photos, "like" the Mine Train Thru Nature's Wonderland Model Facebook page and follow Sam's progress.


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